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Almost half of Americans are clueless about financing anything

Sunday, December 30, 2007

Is the thrill of possibly appearing in the newspaper just too irresistible for a growing number of Americans who are in debt up to their eyeballs that they'll willingly make fools of themselves, or do they somehow think that they'll find a sympathetic audience?

Just look at this couple from this LA Times story.

Cindy Gerhardt of Clinton, Okla., shown with her husband, Steven, and their Ford Expedition, has rolled over so much debt on vehicle purchases — five in three years — that she now owes almost $43,000 on two trucks worth no more than $29,000 and, she says, perhaps as little as $22,000.
They just look so pitiful next to their new SUV that they bought because someone was willing to lend them the money to do so.

Here's a shocker for those of you who have been so distracted with the goings-on in mortgage lending that you haven't kept up with what's been happening in the auto finance industry:

Almost half of all new car loans are financed for more than six years!?!

And, like mortgage backed securities, we have the wonderful "innovation" of debt securitization to thank for this and other developments that have enabled so many Americans to buy so much stuff that they really can't afford.
About 30% of the loans that are originated by banks, and 100% of those issued by automaker financiers, are, like mortgages, repackaged and sold as securities, according to the Consumer Bankers Assn.
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Today, most lenders offer financing on 100% or even 125% of the sticker price, and some offer the most credit-worthy buyers loans for twice the value of the vehicle they're purchasing. Last year, the average amount financed for new cars reached 99%, according to the Consumer Bankers Assn., up from 95% in 2005.

Lenders are beginning to brace themselves; many have said they intend to tighten standards and require larger down payments.

Despite warnings from S&P, the Consumer Bankers Assn., Lehman Bros. and others, there is little sign that the automobile industry is willing -- or, with consumers demanding low payments, even able -- to reduce the lengths of the loans they issue.

"For banks, it's a matter of meeting consumer demand: no money down and extend the term," said SunTrust's Pregmon. "But as a lender, you've got a moral obligation as well. Are we putting the clients in loans they can't afford?"
Since when have lenders had a moral obligation to anything other than the bottom line? They must be talking about what things were like in the last century.

When you think about it though, the relaxing of credit standards for new car purchases up until the recent credit crunch really did make sense ... financing a house had become as easy as financing a new car, so financing a new car just had to get easier.

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12 comments:

Anonymous said...

They say the Romans were brought down by lead in their pipes. What made us this dumb, mercury in our tuna?

Daniel Newby said...

"An ordinary person spends his life avoiding tense situations. Repo man spends his life getting into tense situations."

Truer words were never spoken.

EconomicDisconnect said...

Along the lines of the cluless, I ran across a story that is highlighting the new problem of animal shelters being overwhelmed by orphan pets due to foreclosures! They call them "Foreclosure Dogs". I'm not kidding.

Anonymous said...

"five in three years": that's what gets me. I'm 61, and if you ignore the motorbikes of my youth, and cars owned in the couple of years we lived abroad, five cars is the total that my wife and I have ever bought. Two were short-lived bangers: the other three have done us since 1974. Only one was bought new.

Anonymous said...

America is lost, misguided by the media, Wall Street and Washington. "Can" is not "should". "Want" is not "need". The economy is driven by fat, lazy consumers buying more crap they don't need to replace perfectly good crap they already have. We are told consumption equals happiness. We are given endless lines of credit. Then, when the bubble bursts, we blame everyone but ourselves.

Anonymous said...

Lenders are beginning to brace themselves; many have said they intend to tighten standards and require larger down payments.

Yeah, and Sen. Larry Craig said he intended to resign. And, the point is???

Anonymous said...

In defense of the 7-year car loan, some of those dealers are offering pretty good interest rates.

I never thought I'd need a loan to buy a car, in the past I always bought cheap used cars, which is still no doubt the most financially sensible thing to do. But, I wanted a new car this time. The amount financed was never even mentioned; they just loaned me 100% of the money by default.

Interest rate on the loan is 4%. That's less than I pay for my mortgage debt. It's less than the US government pays for its debt, so I figure it must be a pretty good deal. If I'd thought to ask about it, I'd certainly have gone for a 125% loan.

This particular dealer wasn't offering such good rates on loans longer than 4 years, so that's what I got. If they'd give me 4% for 7 years, I'd have taken that option without hesitation.

-shan

Anonymous said...

What do you want to read: stories of idiots in debt up to their eyeballs or stories of poor people who can't get any credit? I'm afraid it will be one or the other.

Anonymous said...

I'd prefer stories of people who can't get credit because, as long as discrimination is not involved, you know the system is working.

Anonymous said...

Almost half of Americans are clueless about financing anything...

Something to think about. From the Washington Post's Michelle Singletary in “Can’t Win With Your Eyes Shut”:

In a nationwide survey conducted for Money magazine, 36 percent of respondents said they go to great lengths to avoid facing up to financial reality. Seventeen percent said they avoid facing the financial truth by refusing to look at their bank balances or financial statements.

Anonymous said...

This is why I've argued for years that we need classes in personal finance in high schools.

But the years of easy credit are almost over, and the tough times are about to begin.

We will look back at these as the good old days. ;^)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous #2 wrote:
*Yeah, and Sen. Larry Craig said he intended to resign. And, the point is???*


That lenders have a wide stance?

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