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One gold coin for every American family

Thursday, January 24, 2008

If American families are smart (and if they are able), they'll take that $1,200 check coming from the gubment and buy a single one-ounce American Eagle gold coin. Now that monetary policy and fiscal policy appear to be firing on all cylinders, it will probably be one of the easiest and best decisions they'll ever make - the only real question is whether or not $1,200 will be enough by the time the checks arrive in May.

Following on the heels of the Federal Reserve's three-quarter point cut in short-term interest rates on Tuesday, with another half-point cut scheduled for next week, Congress acted earlier today by completing work on a $150 billion economic bailout plan that will see checks of $1,200 or more arriving in the mailboxes of almost 120 million families.

Oh yeah, they're going to raise the loan limits for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac too, so the gubment can shoulder more of the liability for the nation's floundering housing market.

It's an election year, it all makes perfect sense.

According to this AP report, now that the Dems are large and in charge, almost 30 percent of the tax rebates will actually go to people who do not pay taxes. Non-taxpayers will get $300 and those individuals who actually do pay income taxes will get up to $600, working couples will get $1,200, and families with children will receive an additional $300 per child under the plan.

It's not clear why they continue to call them "rebate checks" since, in many cases, it is nothing more than a give-away - almost like money falling from the sky.

Business tax incentives worth $50 million round out the plan that disappointed more than a few elected officials because it did not include an extension of unemployment benefits or an increase in food stamps.

Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., agreed to drop both of these elements from the plan in exchange for getting checks of $300 into the hands of people who don't pay taxes.

"I can't say that I'm totally pleased with the package, but I do know that it will help stimulate the economy. But if it does not, then there will be more to come," Pelosi said.

That's good to know.

Once again, if you are able and if the gubment bailout money still covers the cost when your check arrives, just buy one ounce of gold, stick it away in a sock drawer and forget about it.

Someday, years from now, pull it out and tell your friends, "This is the gold coin I bought with that first government bailout check in 2008. It's worth [fill in the blank] now."

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17 comments:

Anonymous said...

In 2001, I could have purchased an ounce of Gold with the $300 check that Bush handed out back then to "stimulate" the economy. Instead, I saved it because I did not need it, and I did not know anything about Gold.

Now, I could really use about $950 so that I could pick-up an extra ounce of Gold, but of course, I'm only eligible for $600. Inflation sure does suck.

(Maybe I should pick-up a 1/2 oz and 1/10 oz now. That's about $585 at today's spot price. Unless I want to gamble that spot will be lower in May!?!?!)

Anonymous said...

Tim,

You forgot to mention that those of us hard-working, responsible, two wage-earner families who put off instant gratification for higher education, and now manage to slave away for a combined household income of $150k will get NADA!

I am so sick of paying everyone else's way in this country.

Maybe it's my turn to take a vacation and grab some of those gubmint handouts. Heck, if they also vote to extend unemployment benefits, maybe i'll just sit the upcoming recession out and live off the public dole...

Anonymous said...

Tim, if I buy the coin you mention, how can I then sell it?
Is there a physical market? Do I mail it in?

Tim said...

There is more than a little irony in the fact that you can take a one-ounce gold coin stamped $50 and deposit at a bank and they are required by law to credit your account by $50 as it is legal tender. If you take that same coin to any coin shop (call around for the best price) they'll give you over $900 in cash with no questions asked.

Anonymous said...

Ahem,

Non-taxpayers will get $300 and those individuals who actually do pay income taxes will get up to $600

Everyone pays taxes bub, those of us on the low end of the scale get the federal taxes BACK at the end of the year because we need every bit of it to pay for things like rent and food, which don't count in core inflation. But we don't get that 7.65% SS & MD tax deducted (and double taxed to boot, triple for those of us who have state income taxes) My federal tax rate is 0%, my real tax rate counting state is 22%.

Please don't be sloppy about things like this,

Anonymous said...

tenguphule,

If you're getting tax refunds each year, you're doing it wrong. Why are you giving the gubmint an interest-free loan every year? Simply change your witholding allowances and get more of your money back with each paycheck.

btw, everyone does not pay income tax. Have you ever heard of the Earned Income Credit?

Furthermore, the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay less than 3% of the annual federal tax receipts, and they have a substantially lower effective tax rate than those in the top 2 quintiles.

Anyone who says the "rich" don't pay taxes is simply ignorant; where do you think the gubmint goes to collect from?

As Will Sutton answered when asked why he robbed banks: "Because that's where the money is."

Nick said...

I wonder how much government savings could be realized by just skipping the middle man and having everyone who makes money and saves it just give it to people who waste it, in lieu of paying some percentage of taxes. It seems like a lot of steps to get around to the government doing that for you anyway.

staghounds said...

Tenguphule, you don't get it back "because we need every bit of it to pay for things like rent and food...".

You get it back because your (all of our) chosen government made that the law. It's the result of the balance of electoral power, not some impulse of pity.

And at your end, that ss/md is a hell of a deal. I wish I could get in on it at your numbers, because what I'm paying is a pure gift to you. Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

Call me paranoid, but I’m starting to think that the very low savings rate in America is not a “problem” but part of the master plan. Only the rich are supposed to have savings, and the rest of us are supposed to stay as close to bankruptcy as possible without going over the line, to keep us dependent on lending

Anonymous said...

It's called "The New Road to Serfdom" ---- you're not paranoid ---- it IS the master plan

EconomicDisconnect said...

I am not the paranoid type usually, but I am seriously thinking all the government bailout/takeovers of all things financial is moving fast and furious right now. Any sinister ideas as to what this all may mean?

Omar Cruz said...
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Tim said...

Seriously Omar, go the f--- away.

Anonymous said...

Physical gold can be confiscated in times of economic crisis. FDR did it in 1933. While the citizens loyally handed theirs in at 20 dollars an oz, the bankers shipped a bunch to Europe to hide. FDR then changed the rate to 35 dollars and oz after the confiscation, this cheating the law abiding citizens out of 17 dollars per oz handed in. The bankers who shipped their gold to Europe did well.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/willis/willis112304.html

As for taxes, the average household who may pay little or no federal income tax can pay as much as 30% of his net income in taxes in one form or another.

http://www.nowandfutures.com/taxes.html

These are likely the ones who are defaulting even on fixed mortgages. As housing prices inflated, cities and towns were quick to reappraise, so property taxes and property insurance went through the roof. I pay now 12,600per year on property tax, flood insurance and property insurance on a house I bought for 200K in 1994, which used to cost me 4,200.

Yet the lie that is CPI says inflation is only 40.3% over this period. Inflation is the hidden tax that is devastating the middle class, and everyone else not in the top 10%.

Anonymous said...

Its not cheap blowing up sand in Iraq! No one in the USA is getting a "rebate check" its all paid for on the China credit card, the whole country is one giant IOU. At least this debt addition is given to all, and spent in America (at least by the poor).

Anonymous said...

I LOVE EARNED INCOME CREDIT. I FIGURE UP HOW MUCH MONEY I GET DOING WHATEVER, USUALLY ITS THE AMOUNT THAT ALLOWS ME THE BIGGEST REFUND WITH EIC. I DO HAVE TO PAY SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX, BUT HEY A FREE THOUSAND BUCKS IS A FREE THOUSAND BUCKS.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO BITCH ABOUT PAYING MY WAY, LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. YOU COULD BE GIVING IT TO ME OR TO A FEW FILTHY RICH BANKERS WHO OWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE. AT LEAST I SAY, THANK YOU.

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