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Another change in scale

Friday, February 15, 2008

Now that Riverside County has necessitated the opening up of the minus 20 percent to minus 30 percent range in the chart below, it's hard to imagine that any further changes in scale will be needed. But, then again, you never know.
From year-ago levels, the median home price in Riverside County plunged 20.1 percent, outpacing the decline in next-door neighbor San Bernardino County at minus 19.3 percent. Price declines of this magnitude were unthinkable just a couple years ago.

DataQuick reported the latest on Southern California real estate sales the other day and, while this is normally a very slow time of the year, the January sales total for the entire SoCal area dipped below 10,000 for the first time in 20 years. Overall, sales were down 24.6 percent from last month and down 44.9 percent from January of last year.
Marshall "almost all if not all of those gains are here to stay" Prentice, President of DataQuick, had these comments:

We don't know how much of this downturn is driven by market fundamentals, and how much is due to turmoil in the lending industry. The market has been sending mixed signals since August, and it's virtually impossible to see trends and make predictions. Our sense is that quite a bit of activity is on hold, we just don't know how long it can be kept on hold.
Well, maybe it would be more accurate to say, "it's impossible to see good trends" because lower sales volume and lower sales prices are clear to see.

It's been quite a fall from grace for all Southern California counties - the $520,000 median price in Orange County remains the only area still above the half-million dollar mark, but that seems likely to change in the months ahead.
This spring and summer should be quite interesting as motivated sellers, bank owned properties, and short sales compete for a dwindling number of buyers.

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8 comments:

Anonymous said...

When might the housing crisis hit rock bottom, Yergin asked.

The country still has "a long way to go," Greenspan responded.


http://tinyurl.com/ysqd7g

Of course, Greenspan doesn't seem to accept responsibility for the "housing crisis."

Anonymous said...

looks like we have hit bottom in san diego! i will run out and buy this weekend!

Anonymous said...

Bush Administration Hides More Data, Shuts Down Website Tracking U.S. Economic Indicators
The U.S. economy is faltering. Family debt is on the rise, benefits are disappearing, the deficit is skyrocketing, and the mortgage crisis has worsened. Conservatives have attempted to deflect attention from the crisis, by blaming the media’s negative coverage and insisting the United States is not headed toward a recession, despite what economists are predicting.

The Bush administration’s latest move is to simply hide the data. Forbes has awarded EconomicIndicators.gov one of its “Best of the Web” awards. As Forbes explains, the government site provides an invaluable service to the public for accessing U.S. economic data:

This site is maintained by the Economics and Statistics Administration and combines data collected by the Bureau of Economic Analysis, like GDP and net imports and exports, and the Census Bureau, like retail sales and durable goods shipments. The site simply links to the relevant department’s Web site. This might not seem like a big deal, but doing it yourself–say, trying to find retail sales data on the Census Bureau’s site–is such an exercise in futility that it will convince you why this portal is necessary.

Yet the Bush administration has decided to shut down this site because of “budgetary constraints,” effective March 1:

TJandTheBear said...

it's hard to imagine that any further changes in scale will be needed. But, then again, you never know.

I dunno, Tim, the trajectory seems to almost guarantee it!

Anonymous said...

Re: scale changes

Mish has a good one on this today. No hurry to get back into a house until at least 2012. No new highs until the 2020's.

Anonymous said...

But where is the graph that shows house prices went up to insane levels from 2000 - 2005. What about 1995 - 2000, when prices went up from high to merely ridiculous. Since 1995 represents the year when house prices reflected roughly the real earning power of buyers, there is still a way to go, another 50% drop from current levels, before sustainability is restored.

TJandTheBear said...

anonymous,

This won't stop at sustainability; there will be a significant overshoot to the downside.

Anonymous said...

What affect is migration having? Judging by anecdotal evidence, the state has been losing higher income Americans and replacing them with lower income immigrants. I think that is one reason a bubble never showed up in much of the Northeast U.S.—the population is falling, especially the age group that would have been buying first homes.

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