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Marriage and Debt

Monday, May 01, 2006

It's nice to occasionally get away from the computer and the normal sources of news and information, to be forced to watch commercials on a hotel room TV that is not equipped with a Tivo, and to generally look at the world a little differently for a couple days at a time.

Such was the case over the weekend.

Before breakfast on Saturday, this story, Many marriages today are 'til debt do us part, was spotted on the front page of the weekend edition of USA TODAY. Not having purchased a newspaper of any sort for quite some time, and not having purchased a copy of USA TODAY for at least a few years, it was no surprise to find that the purchase price had risen to 75 cents, which seems reasonable, as it had been stuck at 50 cents for what seems like about fifteen years now.

[The U.S. Post Office should learn something from the newspapers and stop their two and three cent rate hike madness by just going directly from the current 39 cents (or did they already change it to 41 cents?) to 50 cents, and then just leave it there for a while. Please. If not fifty cents, can they at least try to get two consecutive first class postage rates that are not both prime numbers?]

Anyway, there are sure to be lots more stories in major newspapers in the coming months and years as the crazy debt binge that Americans have been on for the better part of this decade begins to unwind in a big way. USA TODAY often times has good insights into what ails ordinary Americans - this series may be one of those times.

In a seven-week series that begins today, USA TODAY will explore the ins and outs of couples' finances. Each Monday, we'll profile one of five couples who agreed to a Money Makeover from USA TODAY and the Financial Planning Association. Each Friday, we'll cover couples' most pressing financial issues and offer advice on how to handle them.
It's hard to imagine what the family in this picture must be going through these days with rising energy costs, rising medical costs, and rising costs for just about everything else they spend money on, little of which shows up in government inflation statistics.

It's reasonable to assume that they have at least one inexpensive DVD player and maybe a nifty digital camera whose quality far surpasses that of last years model. It's also reasonable to assume that they'd trade some of the features on their electronics for cheaper gasoline.

So what's ailing this family and millions of other families like them? Money. Borrowing too much, spending too much, saving too little, and not talking about it.
Which financial issues most often cause strife? Spending too much and saving too little, according to couples who responded to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll in March. (Many couples don't admit to financial troubles, though. More on that later.)

Making matters worse is that couples don't talk much about money before committing to each other. Nearly two-thirds of married couples who responded to USA TODAY's poll said they talked little or not at all before the wedding about how to combine their finances.

"It's the No. 1 taboo topic," says Syble Solomon, a motivational speaker who created Money Habitudes, playing cards for planners and counselors to use in getting couples talking about money. "People will tell you about their intimate sexual lives before they'll tell you about their money."
Speaking of intimate sexual lives, in our new favorite new HBO show, Big Love, wife number two seems to be having a bit of a spending problem lately (that would be wife number two as in number two out of three current wives).

Actually wife number two's problem lies not with spending, as her outstanding credit card balances are rising at a rate of at least $3,000 a week - the problem is in the debt accumulation.

As wife number two's mother told her, "We all spend like there's no tomorrow. Of course we've been told there's no tomorrow three times now, so it's understandable that we behave this way".

Elsewhere in the U.S., as in Utah, money can lead to problems at home.
In the worst cases, money can be a home wrecker. In fact, two of the five couples USA TODAY originally chose to profile for this series split up a few weeks later. At least one partner within each couple said the breakup was due, in part, to the conflicts that ignited once they began to dig into their finances with the help of a financial planner. (USA TODAY chose two other couples to replace the ones who split up.)
Oops!

Two of five - that would be close to forty percent of this very unscientific sample of couples that not only couldn't stand the scrutiny of a financial planner, but when it was all said and done, they couldn't stand each other.

This was by far, the most interesting statistic in this story.

The least scientific, but, by far the most interesting.

The lesson to be learned here is that if you want to stress test your relationship, sit down with a financial planner and bare your checkbook. Either that or do what most couples do - let one person take care of the money and hope for the best.
It's still more common to have one person take the lead on finances. In the FPA poll, 75% of planners said men make the majority of the family's investment decisions. About one in five couples make these decisions jointly, the planners' survey showed.

The person who makes the investment decisions — and thus controls the bulk of family assets — tends to manage the couple's long-term financial goals. The other partner may take on short-term tasks, such as paying monthly bills. Nearly 60% of FPA planners say women tend to pay the bills.

In general, women know less about investing but make fewer mistakes, such as holding a stock for too long, when they do invest, according to 2004 research by Merrill Lynch Investment Managers. Men tend to enjoy investing more but are also more likely to invest without research.
Somehow the whole idea of an ownership society seems a little optimistic when considering that most people are challenged by balancing their check book.

Human nature is what it is. Instant gratification enabled by easy access to credit is a lot more fun than watching a savings balance grow over time.

Planning for the future, saving, investing, financial literacy for the masses - it all seems to be going awry, this conclusion waiting for confirmation as the nation's housing market wends its way to its inevitable conclusion.

By the time the decade is done, will we find that people really own anything other than more debt?

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I doubt it has anything to do with individuals just not being able to handle their own financial well-being. To illustrate, it seems governments have the same problem, and who would argue governments can't be responsible?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/30/business/yourmoney/30view.html?_r=1&oref=login

Ahem.

But anyway, clearly individuals or organizations (even governments) can be fiscally responsible if they are not misled, and incentive structures exist to reward it (and do the opposite for mistakes).

Incidentally, the URL above suggests acceleration ahead for dumping of dollars by the rest of the world. Yee-haw!

Anonymous said...

The "ownership" society is not about mass ownership. It is about society by and for owners.

Feudalism.

Bush got his wealth because a city condemned land for him (paying one third value) and built him a baseball park. Cheney and Rumsfeld did not earn huge salaries in the private sector because they were good managers, but because they had government connections which meant billions.

The "ownership" society is anti capitalist. It does not believe in competition, it believes that an elite, a new nobility should control economic activity, government is to be used as a personal fief.

Look at the "rebuilding" of Iraq. Look at Fema. Under Clinton it was reformed to at least moderate competence. Then loyal vassals were rewarded, the experienced left, people died, but contracts went to the right people.

The VA also reformed under Clinton is next in line.

Yes these people will succeeed in "proving" that "government is the problem not a solution" but they will not shrink it since it is the medium by which they become rich and powerful.

They hate capitalism. They wish to destroy it because it undermines privilege by birth. The natural serfs such as Rush hurry to bow.

Anonymous said...

Tim, just an anecdotal story to dispell the myth that all families are in debt in a bad way. My wife and I got married last July. Since then we've paid off her credit card debt and managed to start saving like this:

25% income to pre-tax retirement / month (401k's)
5% income to post-tax retirement / month (roth)
35% income to post-tax savings / month (money market/brokerage accounts)

No car loans, credit card debt, etc. We do have a fixed rate mortgage at 5.375/30 yrs. The mortgage payment is less than we could rent in socal now. I also have some student loans, but hey I got an education out of that!
We could save more, but we like to eat at restaurants too much. That's probably our one weakness that we don't want to give up. Oh we do not have a big screen tv/home entertainment worth thousands, no mammoth suv, no extravagant furniture or home appliance expenses, no extravagant vacations that we cannot afford. Our next car will be paid in (mostly) cash.

Anonymous said...

Today is our 22nd wedding anniversary. For some reason, this article hit a nerve on our special day.

We have no debt, except for our house (bought in 1999), which is 1/2 paid off. We have stocks, but recently sold about 1/2 of them in order to pay off more of our house and put more into metals.

I am deeply worried about the future. I tend to point out the articles online and in the newspaper and make my husband concerned. Neither of us are spenders, but to us the future looks bad.

We recently bought another car (already had a Geo Metro and a Caravan for hauling our 2 kids). We bought a Suzuki Swift because I have concerns there will be rationing, sooner or later. I bought a bike trailer at a garage sale in case I have to go mainly to using my bicycle.

And for years now we've asked each other: Why does everyone live so much better than we do? Why are their houses so big? Why do they take so many vacations? Why doesn't debt matter? Why are so many of our friends losing their computer jobs?

Lately our questions have added: How can this country spend so much and export so many jobs at the same time? Does it ever catch up? How much does it cost to import every poor person from Mexico and put them on welfare? Why do both political parties sound so bad?

And the final question: What kind of future is this going to be for our kids?

Then I pinch the pennies even tighter.

My advise to you singles: Marriage is great, but choose your spouse carefully. Look beyond looks. Beauty fades but debt and spendthrift can be forever.

Anonymous said...

Off topic from the other comments but ... I recently heard on NPR that the Postal Service is limited in raising its rates to the dollars and cents that it actually needs to operate at a balanced budget. Apparently, it is not allowed to run a surplus and must only charge for postage, the amount necessary to scrape by.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, it is not allowed to run a surplus and must only charge for postage, the amount necessary to scrape by.


ISTR that the last increase went directly to the US Treasury.

Tim said...

I applaud families today that can resist the tempations dangled in front of them on a daily basis and keep an eye on the future. I get lots of mail on this subject - readers happy to hear that they are not alone.

I often recall the story of two families in Las Vegas - basically the same incomes, the same house purchased at the same time years ago - where one family has been spending their home equity and the other has resisted. The children of the big borrowers/spenders taunt the children of the other family because they don't have a plasma TV and a boat or take expensive vacations. The kids run home and their parents have to explain to them over and over about borrowing against home equity, saving, etc.

A sad commentary about the times that we live in.

Anonymous said...

I'm a saver but I don't overdo it. When push comes to shove and there's not enough money to pay for the spendthrifts with now retirment savings, they're going to take it from the savers. The writing is on the wall.

I've done all kinds of calculations to make sure I have enough money at retirement but there is one that haunts me... raise taxes by 10% at retirement and see how much you have to save for financial independance. It's depressing.

Anonymous said...

The US Govt can "take" your savings money only if there's a clear paper trail leading to it. I suggest converting a substantial portion of your savings to gold and silver bullion, for this reason. You don't want this sitting in any official bank vault or safety deposit box in the US - store it at home. Better still, move it out of the country. For the truly buttoned-down: make a trip abroad, buy the gold there and arrange to have it stored there. Preferably in a stable country with a long-standing tradition of private gold ownership. India or Dubai come to mind. Canada may work, too. They still have a largely resource-based economy, and more likely to respect the individual's right to own precious metals.

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