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Thursday, April 19, 2007

There is a long way to go before a definitive answer can be provided on the fate of the 2006 commodities boom that purportedly turned into a bubble, then became re-animated like the main character in Christopher Moltisanti's new film "Cleaver" on The Sopranos.

Christopher: "Originally I thought a ballpeen hammer, but a cleaver's better."

The Bank of Australia reported earlier today that demand for natural resources may keep commodity prices elevated for "several decades."

China-led demand for metals, minerals and energy has stoked one of the largest and fastest increases in commodity prices of the past century, matched only by the 1930s and 1970s, the bank said.

The Reserve Bank's currency-adjusted index of commodity prices was at a record in March, and has risen 84 percent in the past four years, led by a 205 percent increase in base-metal prices.
Hmmm...

Coming up on the one-year anniversary of last year's commodities mania with prices that remain firm (or better) across the board, you don't hear too much talk about a commodities "bubble" this year. You are more likely to hear grudging acknowledgment that last year's prices were no fluke, as demonstrated by the Bank of Australia above.

Now is as good a time as any to begin checking in with last year's predictions by those thinking that metal prices in 2006 would go the way of Nasdaq share prices in 2000.

First up is Commodities Pass Duck Test for Bubble Diagnosis by Caroline Baum of Bloomberg from last May in which a very important question was asked but not answered.
Another sign of the degree to which commodities have separated themselves from reality is the disconnect between home building and copper. Housing data "used to move the price of copper,'' which makes sense since the homebuilding industry is the marginal buyer of copper, Shaoul says.

Year to date, the Standard & Poor's 500 Homebuilding Index, which includes large builders such as Pulte Home Inc. and D.R. Horton, is down 20 percent while copper prices are up 86 percent. Is China really buying all that copper?
The answer provided here in
Dissecting the Duck Diagnosis, a rebuttal to Ms. Baum's column (long before the two of us exchanged emails earlier this year) was "Uh, Yeah".

A couple of charts were provided along with some smart alecky comments about the Bloomberg columnist not really being interested in anything other than a confirmation of what she already believed to be true.

In this quick look back today, only two charts are needed to draw at least a preliminary conclusion about where things are headed and who's responsible for driving prices (make that, who's not responsible for driving prices).

New home construction in the U.S. has continued its decent from the level of last spring showing only tentative signs of making a bottom.


But look what's happened to the price of copper in the new year.

Housing data in the U.S. "used to move the price of copper" we were all told last year, Caroline being only one of a chorus of columnists making this same claim. Today, this U.S.-centric view of world demand appears somehow flawed, as if there is a new "marginal buyer of copper", a point made here last year, but not a popular idea on Wall Street.


Well, somebody is using a lot of copper to build something - that's for sure - enough to push prices back up to near where they were a year ago.

Granted, today doesn't look like a particularly good day for the most widely used base metal - Dr. Copper as some refer to it - but it should be clear from the charts above that the rumors of the death of the commodity boom appear to be quite premature.

If only housing prices would rebound like this.

6 comments:

Unknown said...

One of things I've noticed is how little I rely on the mainstream financial media any more for analysis - for information yes, but analysis, no. I use MarketWatch, CNNMoney and to a lesser extent Bloomberg for quotes and breaking news, but for analysis, I mainly use your blog, Minyanville, Mike Shedlock, Financial Sense, iTulip, the Oil Drum, Calculated Risk, Dr. Housing Bubble and a few others. The Internet has enabled some really fine analysts to eliminate the he-said/she-said MSM middlemen and speak directly to their audiences. I realize this is partly a case of my seeking out sources who reinforce my fear that financial assets in general and America's in particular are going to hell in a handcart . . .

One of things that worries me, though - since I am way overweighted (as in "almost exclusively invested") in energy and gold, albeit still with a lot of cash - is the way these assets have been moving almost in lockstep with stocks and bonds. As Greg Silberman recently wrote: "Instead of counter-cyclical hedges GE (gold/energy) Stocks are behaving like high Beta stocks . . ."

To the extent that the hyperleverage enabled by "the mess that Greenspan made" is adding to the organic demand for gold, energy and commodities, there may be a bit of froth there at the top. My guess is that when the dam finally breaks, everything including hard assets and energy, goes down to gut-wrenching levels. But then only hard assets and energy bounce back. I'd be interested in reading your take on this in some future post.

Tim said...

Wayne,

The thing that I always wonder about is when the dam will break (unless you really can expand money and credit indefinitely).

If you look up my 2006 and 2007 predictions you'll see that I've never really been bearish on anything other than the dollar and housing. The equity bears are really having it handed to them now and, given what's happened over the last year or two, I wouldn't be surprised if we make it through the summer of 2008 (Beijing Olympics) without anything more severe than the Feb. 27th correction.

If that's the case, commodity prices will go much higher but I fear you are correct in saying that at some point, "everything including hard assets and energy, goes down to gut-wrenching levels. But then only hard assets and energy bounce back."

When things do bounce back, the world will be much different - that's why I prefer what's happened in the last few years (where commodity investments go up twice as fast as U.S. stocks) to the gut-wrenching credit end-game.

I write about this sort of thing more frequently at the website for subscribers - here, I usually just make fun of things.

Anonymous said...

Wayne, I whole heartily agree with you concerning the MSM and the blogs you read, I read them regularly, I even subscribed to Tim’s, since his is one of the most enjoyable, but I always wonder since these blogs generally have the same (except for inflation-deflation) views which I personally share, if I’m missing the other side of the debate. I mean is there a well reasoned argument out there why this thing could go on, and everything will end up if not fine, but at least OK? I’m all open ears…

Anonymous said...

This is a nation of true believers (Hoffer). Do you really think that with a crappy war and housing going down that stocks are going to go down too? It ain't gonna happen.

TJandTheBear said...

Anonymous,

Oh, it'll happen, sure as your card gets declined once the credit's maxed out. It's never been a matter of *if*, just *when*.

Aaron Krowne said...

Something has certainly broken; it is clear that copper has already signaled a domestic recession -- but then when it got through with that, it went right on marching up in response to net global demand.

Mish had been arguing for the former, quite expertly (and contrary to popular opinion that the US would and could have no recession). But only a few (Tim, me) were arguing for the latter -- that the goings-on in the US would ultimately take a back seat to global dynamics, and copper would shortly rise again.

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